Andrew Friedman and Joe MaddonWith Andrew Friedman leaving the Tampa Bay Rays and joining the Los Angeles Dodgers as president of baseball operations, focus now to turns to Joe Maddon and whether Friedman will try to lure his now-former partner-in-crime to manager the Dodgers.

According to Bill Shaikin of the Los Angeles Times, there is hope that Maddon will remain with the Rays for at least one more season.

Of course, “for now” sounds ominous and plans have a funny way of changing. There are also plenty of reasons to think that it is just a matter of time before Maddon is the next manager of the Dodgers, whether it happens before the upcoming season or after.

Obviously, Maddon and Friedman have already proved that they work well together in creating a roster and executing a game plan on the field. We also know that Maddon is all-in when it comes to implementing a math-based, or at least a math-influenced, approach to baseball.

Mattingly, who has clashed with the Dodgers’ brass in the past, is more of an old school type who is not too fond of advanced stats.

“There’s another level (to effort) you can’t measure with sabermetrics. They may say ‘BS’ to that. But there are certain things that you can’t measure.”

Does that sound like a guy Friedman would want managing his ball club?

There is also Maddon’s ties to the Los Angeles area where he still maintains a home after coaching with the Angels for many years. His contract is up after the 2014 season and the Dodgers can offer Maddon better players, more money, and nice stadium to play in.

Maddon wants to manage ten more years. Would you blame him if he wanted to spend those last ten years with one of the most storied organizations in sports?

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  1. Matt says:

    If I'm sternberg, I come out tomorrow and sign maddon to a four or five year extension. This would at least bring some security and lessen the blow of losing Friedman. At least we'd still have our brain trust in JoeMa. The extension would also show the fans that your still committed to winning and that you value loyalty by rewarding Joe with an acceptable contract.

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  2. Gus says:

    Dear Andy, you can't have Joe, but feel free to take along the resident crapbags and their fat contracts (they'll fit right in with LA) you left us with after your miserable spendthrift winter of 2013-14:

    Jose Molina
    Escobar
    Balfour
    DeJesus
    Heath Bell
    Hannigan

    You can take Tim Beckham, Josh Sale and all the other washout picks while you are at it too.

    You had a great run, but last year wasn't it. It was a failure of the front office. To be unable to surround that pitching staff with anything resembling a line-up and the back end of the bullpen was a miserable failure. Good luck in LA. I think you'll find it much harder to operate a wealthy franchise than a cash-starved one. More money, more (baseball) problems.

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    • Political_Man says:

      A team with money does not sign the players you listed. I also think it's kind of foolish to think he'll have more problems is LA than he dis in TB.

      I think LA is the perfect spot for Andrew Freidman where he will have the resources and the freedom to be innovative. I wish him the worst of luck.

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  3. Dave L says:

    Ever since this was announced I'm try to figure out why Mattingly wasn't fired first.

    Maybe they figured on or about the third meeting with AF discussing advanced metrics and hypothetical lineup construction versus Madison Bumgardner over coffee in late November Donnie baseballs head would explode and he would quit and save them the final 2 years on his contract.

    Whether or not Maddon goes there for the 2015 season, Mattingly will not manage AF's baseball team next year. MVP 1st baseman are not the stock from which great managers come.

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    • Gus says:

      I agree there is seemingly no way he and Donny Baseball coexist.

      Given Maddon's comments (he says he's staying), I think Dave Martinez could end up there.

      But lots of cooks in the (front office) kitchen in LA. Will be curious how that works for Friedman.

      Looking down the road in a Rays lens, you wonder if Price ends up there, and you wonder if he ships Carl Crawford out.

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      • Gus says:

        Hunsicker staying with Dodgers too? They have no shortage of front office types.

        Hunsicker may have been the adult in the room that the Rays front office has been missing since he left in 2012. If you look at what the Rays have done the past two offseasons, past two drafts, past two trade deadlines, not a lot of wins in there.

        My own belief is that Hunsicker served as a valuable check on the smart quants in the front office; like anything else, too much of one ideal can be trouble. (The Rays continued insistence that Jose Molina was helping them win games the past 2 years might be submitted as prime evidence of that principle). Rays could use some veteran baseball man like him again I think.

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  4. AJNO says:

    from "the chances of this happening are somewhere between unlikely and HAHAHAHAHAHAHA" to "Would you blame him if he wanted to spend those last ten years with one of the most storied organizations in sports"

    man, what a whirlwind.

    whoever said "blame/ congratulate Hunsicker hit the nail on teh head. GH is the key to this whole deal. hes a personnel genius!

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  5. Sean says:

    TAKE MADDON. I want Martinez. Let him have Maddon and give Martinez a shot.

    I love Joe but I think Martinez is the future, let the guy go through growing pains with Silverman.

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  6. ed says:

    One losing season and he bails , and i really don't think he is leaving us with a whole lot of good. I was just reading all of the posts and that thought came to me, Since Stu took over the gang, they had i believe 2 losing seasons or 3 , my memorie stinks , anyway it's just strange how now when the rays have thier first losing season in 6 years he leaves ,and it sure doesn't look like it's going to get better. I also heard that one of the reasons he left is because of the attendance, i hope not, because he is in for a big suprise if the dodgers have a losing season next year , watch the fans start turning on him. Maybe he doesn't realize how good he had it hear, sure the attendance wasn't great but he sure didn't have to put up with the second guessing from both the fans and the press that he will in L.A. , I wish him the best of luck and thank him for all he did while he was here (except for this past season).

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    • Political_Man says:

      If you put things in perspective certainly seems as if he took a lot of risks this past season. Makes you wonder if he knew this was his last year and wanted to try and go out with a ring.

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      • Gus says:

        I agree with that notion -- that last year was an "all-in" year for Friedman and that was part of the thinking (never before had the Rays been so generous with veteran contracts extending multi-years). If so, he leaves his legacy somewhat tainted because the list I noted above are particulary painful to live with in 2015 and those moves were not necessary. The Balfour signing (after Baltimore had cut him loose over the physical and when he had Rodney wanting to stay) is the kind of decent money veteran signing he'll have to evaluate in LA. Andy has been good in the bargain bin. But when he starts shopping in the $5M a year and up section, it has been pretty brutal.

        After thinking about it some, I'm actually thinking this will be good of Silverman is true to his words and is looking to make some changes in their approach. The "offensive indifference" that has defined the Rays management apporach the last 2 seasons cannot stand. The Rays need runs this offseason, by hook or by crook they must find them.

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        • Dave says:

          And it's not like his bargain bin shopping record is great either. The ones that did work out got a lot of attention and the rest were ignored because they were just bargain bin signings.

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  7. Denny says:

    AF sells assets when they are highly valued. He is highly valued presently, but perhaps won't be as highly valued if the Rays have another stinky season next year. I think it's that simple.

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