MLB: Tampa Bay Rays at Detroit TigersEarlier today we learned that Ben Zobrist is likely to be dealt if David Price is traded. Now comes word that they may both be dealt at the same time.

The Rays are currently in talks with the Seattle Mariners about a trade that would involve both Price and Zobrist according to Jon Morosi of Morosi adds that the Mariners have been attempting to acquire Marlon Byrd from the Phillies but that those talks have stalled.

Back in December, the Mariners were considered the favorites to land Price but a deal never materialized after several reports that the Mariners would not trade top pitching prospect Taijuan Walker.

Another stumbling point may have been that Price’s agent flat-out said Price would not consider signing a long-term extension with the Mariners while he would with other unnamed clubs. Of course, the Mariners could just turn around and trade Price this winter, or next July after they make a couple of playoff runs, and recoup some of the lost prospects.

If the Mariners really do want both Price and Zobrist, Walker would almost certainly have to be the starting point in any deal. In addition to 1.5 years of Price, they would be getting 1.5 years of Zobrist at a very reasonable price ($7.5 million next season).



  1. Beezy says:

    "If there's smoke, there's fire..." lol

  2. deezy333 says:

    Walker, Peterson, Franklin needs to start the discussion with two more prospects included...maybe Guerrero and Diaz?

  3. Jim says:

    And the smoke smells sort of skunky up there. Enjoy it for a few months David!!!!!

  4. Dave L says:

    The fact that Zobrist would be dealt is as obvious as the Price departure and I have been noting it since the early winter.

    Its shocking that no one in the Rays media much less the National MLB press has speculated about it until now.

    I felt like a lone insignificant voice in the wilderness, which I am of course.

    Ben and David's ties to the club end at the same time.

    Ben was the consesus 3rd to 5th best 2nd baseman in MLB this past offseason. A mini slump did nothing to reduce the value of a 30 WAR over 6 year player in the League. What rays observer in their right mind think could imagine the Rays could or would re-sign such a commodity at age 34?

    This injury thing was a freak base sliding occurance. Hes averaged 150 plus games. Ho-hum

    Deal him Andrew and strike while the iron is hot.

  5. Mr. Smith 1980 says:

    Losing Price is tough. Losing an ace always is. But hopefully he will bring a king's ransom, that's the name of the game; tit for a tat.

    Zobrist on the other hand could be quite the gold mine.
    He's not as capable of hitting the long ball as he was a few years ago and his offensive numbers are just nice, but obviously his versatility is what makes him uber-valuable to a whole host of teams with porous infields or thin outfields. The Rays have several nearly as or equally versatile players in the system, so the only real loss if Zobrist is moved would be the emotional connection of losing another character guy and one of the "original Rays" (post Devil) that put it all together.

  6. Craig says:

    Looking through the M's MLB roster, I can't help but think a .200 BA hitter or two would be included in the deal. If that's the case, waiting to see how prospects turn out might be a bit more difficult watching some ineffectual hitters whiff and slap hit their way to the Mendoza line. We'll see.

  7. Craig says:

    Don't the Cards look like a better fit, especially when we're talking Price and Zobrist in a package?

  8. Jim says:

    Dear Jose Molina,
    I would like to apologize on behalf of most of the Tampa Bay Rays fans You were trashed by almost everyone for poor performance while everyone was blowing Hanigan. What a huge mistake that was. Ryan Hanigan is made of glass, that’s why he was expendable. Thank you Jose for your effort, durability, and clubhouse presence.

    Now for the truth. The front office of our organization is touted as some kind of superstar crew. What a complete pile of bullshit. Sure we find a low $ diamond in the rough every so often, but we fail miserably at alot of what we considered veteran moves. Burrell, Pena, Bell, Hanigan, Balfour, extending Escobar, waiting on BJ Upton to finally mature How many millions have we wasted on this group? If any of these players would have turned out to be what the FO thought they were, we may actually have a ring by now, who knows. The players aren’t to blame for this year’s woes, it fall directly at the feet of Andrew Freeman.

    • Mr. Smith 1980 says:

      That is a very interesting take.
      You do realize that the Rays have been one of the most successful teams in the league over the last 6 years, right?
      You do know that each of the "misses" you mentioned only cost the Rays cash and not talent, so the risk was worth the potential reward, right?
      You do realize that sucky FO's gut the farm system making high risk moves while the Rays' organization makes low risk/high reward moves that don't have any long term effect if they don't pan out, right?

      Oh, and anyone who might have taken you seriously tuned you out the second you gave props to Slo-Mo while bashing the obviously far superior Hanigan.

      • Jim says:

        the far superior Hanigan? bahahaha! Hanigan is 21st in WAR, you act like he's an all-star. He's been on the DL for a hammy and his tummy. gimme a break. His WAR is less tha 2 fucking games better than Molina. Hanigan's BA is ZERO during this entire month. Molina's is .269.

        You're right, they only cost us money, and a lot of it. That means a hell of a lot to one of the lowest budget teams in baseball. but keep on believing that AF/Joe Maddon were the cause of the success, and it really wasn't just a perfect storm of pitching. A deaf dumb blind man could have picked David Price.

        We haven't drafted well, we have made some horrible veteran signings, yet in your eyes the FO is spectacular. ]

        Pitching, Pitching, Pitching. Like I've said before, Did Bobby Cox and John Schuerholz the reason for a decade of success for the Braves? Hell no, it was Maddox, Glavine, and Smoltz.

        • Mr. Smith 1980 says:

          So, your argument against the FO is that they haven't put together a pitching staff like Atlanta?
          The one consistent A+ part of the Rays (post-devil) has been pitching, so that argument makes no sense.

          Teams like the Yankees give up more on one crap signing than the Rays have on all the players you listed combined, so as a whole it cost the Rays relatively nothing to kick their tires... several times it's worked, Pena (1st stint), Bartlett, Garza, Escobar (who hasn't been a world-beater, but again low risk), Soriano, Rodney, etc, etc... all low risk/high reward pick-ups that worked out for the greater good.

          If you actually watch baseball you'd see that Hanigan is twice the catcher at this point in his career as Slo-Mo is at his. Molina is easily 2 years removed from when he should have retired. The man has played for a billion years and never made it as the starter until he came to St. Pete. Using this month's sample size is a bit fool-hearty to say the least.

          And for the record, no one is crowning Hanigan as the next Piazza- it's just that the rest of we level-headed folk understand that he's far and away the best catcher the Rays have.

    • Jason says:

      In what world was Pena a failed move? Two years ago he was pretty bad but he still was close to 30HR and all the years before that steep drop he was an excellent fielder and had great power

      • Jim says:

        What in the hell are you talking about? He had 19HRs and batted .197!!!!!!! We paid him 7.25 million for that. Brining him back was a horrific decision, plain and simple.

        Mr Smith,my point was that Pitching made the Braves one of the most successful teams i n history, not their GM or manager, just like the recent success that we've had.

  9. Buddhaboy says:

    yeah, lets not get carried away with the Molina praise. Dude is a slug. Hannigan is fine. Rays need some young talent at the position, like they always have.

    Someone mentioned a kings ransom for Price, like maybe, Felix the King.?

    • Jim says:

      Jose Molina has SIX fewer hits than Hanigan. Yeah he's slow, but he also has two stolen base vs ZERO for Hanigan.

      Once again Jose Molina probably wouldN'T make many rosters in the MLB, but Hanigan sure wouldn't be the starting catcher on many MLB teams either. He's at best a decent backup that is very injury prone. HE'S NOT WHAT HE WAS SOLD/TRADED AS, THAT'S FOR SURE.

  10. Buddhaboy says:

    OH, and if Jose's last name wasnt Molina, he wouldnt be anywhere near a major league team. , Bank it

    • Jim says:

      You're suggesting we trade a $20million pitcher for a $20million pitcher. You really don't have a clue.

  11. Casey says:

    Telling statistics in Tampa Bay Times article, for anyone who thinks we can come back Rays being the Rays.

    Pre-break Post-Year W-L Pct. W-L Pct.

    2008* 55-39 .585 42-26 .618

    2009 48-41 .539 36-37 .493

    2010* 54-34 .614 42-32 .568

    2011* 49-41 .544 42-30 .583

    2012 45-41 .523 45-31 .592

    2013* 55-41 .573 37-30 .552

    2014 44-53 .454 ??-?? .???

    If we do as well as we have post-break previously; we get to .500.
    I don't think that is going to equal a playoff spot. We would have to go 46-19 to get to 90 thinks no way.

  12. mp645 says:

    Maybe the Rays shouldn't have dumped their MLB ready catchers Gimenez (TX) and Vogt (A's). They would have been both cheap and trainable as they already knew the "Rays Way". Catchers don't grow on trees. They are a difficult commodity to obtain.

    • Mr. Smith 1980 says:

      Gimenez was a nice project catcher, I figured his versatility would keep him around, alas, I was wrong

      ...this is the part where somebody comes in and mentions Posey and how the Rays blew it... blah, blah, blah

  13. Buddhaboy says:

    Not happening.

    Its nice to be ultra positive, but too many inconsistencies. And too many Molinas

  14. Buddhaboy says:

    I agree MP645, thought the same thing. What about he trade for forsythe

  15. Beezy says:

    2 words, Mike Zunino!

  16. Dave L says:

    Observing the Rays trading proclivities over the past years, the following will occur.

    When we trade Price, we will get at least 3 young guys in return. Same with Zobrist --- 3 more guys. Nobody will be over 25 or making any money and will have at least 5 and likely all will still have 6 years of control. Thats 36 years of control versus about 3 years of Price + Zobrist. Its hard to screw that up in the long run. 2-3 MLB ready guys plus 3 to 4 nice High A to AA prospects

    The Rays know with prospects you need quantity to make up for 'mistakes', injuries, arrested development, etc. and we will probably give up some young guys that we frankly have given up on likely in the minors.

    Guys who will NOT be part of the package -- Jennings and Joyce, no way.


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