9-8-2014 10-09-17 PM

The GBT – The Good, The Bad and The Telling sandwich, where The Bad is nice and lean and the The Telling is ripe.

RAYS (69-75)

After spending several days away, let’s get back into this with a few notes and links. If there is anything noteworthy that I missed please add in the comments. But first, how is it that I take a small vacation, miss my first games of the season and maybe the best dugout moment of the year happened while I was gone?

THE TELLING: The 2015 schedule has been released with the Rays opening at home against the Orioles on April 6…The Rays are now 69-75, 15.5 games back in the East and need to go 13-5 in the final 18 games to finish with a winning record. Their Wild Card elimination number is now 9 as they trail the Mariners by 10 games (11 in the loss column). The Rays’ playoff odds are now 0.0%


  • Dave Martinez, who has interviewed for four different managerial jobs, may get a shot to interview with the Astros for a second time. He says he is definitely interested. [MLB.com]
  • Desmond Jennings is not expected to play again this season as his knee has not gotten better. Also, Drew Smyly may not pitch again this season with a career-high 153 innings. There is a possibility he will be given one more start on Friday. Matt Moore is scheduled to play catch today for the first time since Tommy John surgery. [TampaBay.com]
  • Here is a nice breakdown from Mark Simon of ESPN showing how bad Evan Longoria has been defensively this season. [@msimonESPN]
  • DOWN ON THE FARM: The Durham Bulls won their first-round playoff series 3 games to 1 and will start the Governors’ Cup championship series tonight against the Pawtucket Red Sox in Pawtucket.

If you missed it, here is the interview with Alex Cobb the ended with a wet Jeremy Hellickson.





  1. Gus says:

    Have to start thinking about making Longoria a first baseman. He has been awful all season long at 3b. And with Escobar's range the lowest in the AL with Jeter retiring, you need something exceptional at 3b. Mid-summer, Evan was so hitchy on his throws I thought a case of Knoblach-itis was coming on; luckily, he's kicked that a bit.

    Of course, you could always dump Escobar and mask some of Evan's limitations at 3b, but that would actually require something other than blind loyalty in the front office.

    • Mr. Smith 1980 says:

      Are you freaking kidding me?!?!?!?!!

      Move one of the league's premier 3B to 1st because he's had a subpar season? You mud the in Colorado because whatever you're smoking isn't legal here in Florida.

      Yes, he should be having one of his best seasons based on his age and he certainly isn't, but if you don't re-read your comment and realize how ludicrous it is you better take the rest of the season off.

      • Dave L says:


        Its curious Longo is judged not versus other 3rd baseman but versus the Mythical Longo as Brooks Robinson. The eyeball test definitely says he has had better years no doubt defensively, but below MLB average? No way!

        If you click the link, from ESPN NY no less, and look at the metrics, they are suspect.

        Firstly Longo is asked to play anywhere from hugging the 3rd base line to SS to 2nd base during any at bat or count to count. he is the linchpin to the shift with that capability.

        Look at the quotes three specific quotes "considerably less successful at getting outs on balls hit down the 3rd base line", "considerably less successful at getting outs on balls hit to the standard 3rd base position" and " less successful getting outs on balls hit to the 3rd base SS hole"

        Well no sh*t.

        Those metrics are more an indictment of the overall effect of the shift than of Longo. Other teams have beat the Rays shifts more this year than all others combined. I dont have the metric to prove it but once the studies are done, it will be proven.

        I am using the watched alot of games eyeball retro metric.

    • OriginalTom says:

      Those numbers to me show Longoria as being slightly below average defensively. He has obviously not been as good this season as in years past but I agree talk of moving him to 1B is an overreaction. If they move him to 1B, what do they do with Loney? Who plays 3B?

  2. Andrew says:

    Just wondering who is in line to pitch if they shutdown Smyly?

    • starmand says:


    • Mr. Smith 1980 says:

      Great chance for Zobrist to expand his repertoire... 🙂

      Look for someone from the farm to get a start. This saves innings on big league arms and gets a farm guy some (or some more) big league experience.

  3. Gus says:

    Follow up thoughts:

    1. I'm projecting Longoria's defensive decline to continue to be as severe as his offensive decline and he's looking at 29.

    2. Longoria's leg health is always an issue; the Rays have to ensure he stays healthy by giving him less defensive burden, running him around like a busy waiter in the various shifts has to take a lot more out of you then playing 1B.

    3. Finally, and most importantly -- Longoria's primary importance to this team is to be a run-producing bat. If playing 1B is can save his bat by saving his legs, then you have to consider it. He just looks flat out exhausted out there without his legs and has looked that way since mid-season. Playing semi-SS, 3b and moving all around in the shift might be part of the reason he has been dreadful at the plate all year.

    I'm pretty sure the people who think Longoria is playing even average 3B aren't watching the games. He has been awful. Even plays that are not errors, he has no range. He went from exceptional fielder to dreadful in one season. If there isn't an injury or health explanation, then it is time to look at it. That side of the infield is aging in dog years.

    • Mr. Smith 1980 says:

      Many of your sweeping generalizations are still off base; especially the one claiming that those of us that are calling Longoria average or just below average as not watching the games... I'm not sure what standard you're holding him to, but it's obviously too high.

      His stats bear-out that he is indeed having a slightly below average year. I'm sorry if your eye-test doesn't agree, but you seem to be unwilling to let facts get in the way of the truth.


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