Chris Archer

The Rays are just 3.0 games back in the Wild Card and yet most indications are that the Rays are willing to trade away some key players as we approach today’s trade deadline. That does not appear to be sitting too well with Chris Archer who is getting vocal.

Archer first chimed in after the Toronto Blue Jays, who are a game ahead of the Rays in the standings, traded for both David Price and Troy Tulowitzki.

I don’t want to get into the business of putting words into somebody’s mouth. There are plenty of others who do that. But it is hard to read that and not think he is either suggesting the Rays are not all in or he is putting pressure on the Rays to get all in.

The latter appears to be the case as Archer went a step further in comments to Marc Topkin of The Tampa Bay Times.

“I’m speaking for our clubhouse when I say this, WE are hoping and confident that the areas of need will be addressed in the coming hours so that we can stay competitive not just in September but through the month of October as well … Other teams have, and I hope that motivates not only the players to give it all they have but the management as well.”

These comments are pretty amazing and unprecedented. These are not random words off the top of his head in response to a reporter’s question. These are premeditated. He is speaking for the team which means these are not only conversations he has had with other veteran players but it sounds like they all agreed that Archer would be the one to deliver those thoughts to the media.

This is really unheard of for a team that typically works under a cloak of secrecy and usually has the players working with them on the same page. In this case, there is a disconnect. The players are not in the loop and they want the front office to be active. In the past, players seemed to “trust the process” a little more and assumed Andrew Friedman was doing what was best for the team both now and for the future. It doesn’t appear that the players have the same level of confidence in this new front office, at least not yet.

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  1. Starmand says:

    I don't think that Archer is going to get a Christmas card from Silverman in the near future.

    On the bright side, Raymond might send him one.

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  2. Brent says:

    I guess someone forgot to tell him this is a "rebuilding" year for the Rays...

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  3. Ken says:

    Curious statement to say the least. The suggestion that Archer has the support of the "veteran players" is surprising, any deals consummated would likely include some of those same vets.

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  4. Dave L says:

    Archer wants to win, so I give him some leeway to say what ever he feels.

    Plus he's played great and his age and contract make him untouchable.

    On the other hand he and Longo are the only current guys most likely to be on the squad when the Rays perpetual retooling system may finally pay off one day.

    To Kens point, the next reporter to get a crack at Arch should quote him and ask who needs to be replaced and with whom?

    Whatever we would have to deal to get a proven bet would be too costly in Rays young talent pool terms, and thats not even taking into account $$$

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    • OriginalTom says:

      :On the Other hand he and Longo are the only current guys most likely to be on the squad when the Rays perpetual retooling system may finally pay off one day"

      Pretty bold statement, The Rays have a solid young core with Longo, Archer, Cobb, Odorizzi, McGee Boxberger, Jennings, and Karns. They also have some young guys who have struggled who still may pan out in Souza, Beckham and Mahtook. Forsythe has also looked good and hopefully Smyly comes back strong.

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  5. edward williams says:

    ok so we keep hearing that we have to "retool" for the future, i just want to know one thing, when is the future going to get here. If the rays don't make the playoffs this year it will be the third year in a row, and unless they go out and "retool" again in the off season there is a good chance next year will be more of the same. It is time to get some offence in here . One good bat would have probably helped, and i am not talking about a rent a player, im talking about a player that would help for at least 2 years. I also understand it takes two to tango but from what we heard there was plenty of conversation. So do we stay status quo and keep this team , which even if we did get to the playoffs we would more than likely be one and done, or does stu and the boys open up that wallet just a little more and bring in a bat or two. Im tired of hearing lets play meaningful games in sept, what about october, I thought the reason you played this game was to win championships, i hope that is why stu bought the team, not to play meaningful games in sept. On the flip side of things i am greatful that they are doing the honor program, i have been to a couple of games already this year and now because of the program will go to a few more, it may be boooorrrrinnngg baseball but it is baseball, GO RAYS !!!!

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    • FortMyersDave says:

      We may not see the club go all in for an actual attempt to make the post season again until the stadium situation is resolved between Stu and the St Pete City Council; you can't blame Stu as the council is basically holding him hostage by not allowing him to look across the Bay to find a new stadium site and I would not be surprised if Stu is helping fan the Montreal rumors to light a fire under them..... Attendance is bad and not getting better, it was less than 10 K better even at its best 5 years back when the rays were in the series and the following season where people actually bought some season tickets... TV revenue decent and a lot of us watch Sunsports as opposed to the ratings Miami gets so the team has fans but until Stu gets his new stadium I suspect we will see more of this nickel and dime BS with the Rays hoping to cultivate more gems from the minors and taking flyers off of players other teams have took a pass on like Grady Sizemore and Joey Butler who has more ABs in Japan than the MLB......

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    • OriginalTom says:

      If the Rays do not make the playoffs this year it will be 2 years in a row.

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  6. Miguel Grande says:

    Maybe, he's referencing the fact that the Rays have lost 8 games with out the pitchers giving up a single earned run (see Thursday).

    That simple fact screams for offensive help. Win those 8 games and the season is a totally different story.

    Does he have to pitch a perfect game to get his 10th victory?

    The Ray's front office is an embarrassment.

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  7. Dave says:

    3 games out of a playoff spot, and trade away top performers in areas that are obviously weak to the team. Wow. Just wow.

    If I'm reduced to rooting for Stu's bottom line, can we rename the team the Minimum Wagers?

    And if you take a look at the pitching depth in the minors, you can see that the Rays had plenty of chips they could have cashed in.

    And what did they pick up for their salary dumps? If you guessed pitching, pitching, and more pitching then you would be correct.

    Does the FO know that it's actually critical to score runs in order to win games?

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