Jose MolinaThe Rays are expected to formally announce a new deal for Jose Molina this week and according to Marc Topkin it will be a 2-year deal and Molina will make $1.75 million in 2014 and $2.75 million in 2015 ($4.5 million total).

I do understand what Molina brings to the table and why he is valuable. But I do worry that some of that value is overstated and that an overweight player that will turn 39 in 2014 is going to decline quickly.

According to, Molina had one of the best seasons in the last 25 years in 2012 when he “saved” 25 runs with his pitch framing. In fact, another calculation put the number as high as 50 runs. In 2013, once again had Molina saving approximately 25 runs by getting umpires to call more strikes than they should have.

But at the same time, said the Rays only received about 2 extra strike calls per 1,000 pitches in 2012, well behind the Brewers and Braves who each had 11 extra strikes per 1,000 pitches. Unless Jose Lobaton is just really, really, bad at framing pitches, that means Molina is not really getting the pitching staff that many extra calls. In other words, nobody is really sure how valuable a catcher is when it comes to framing pitches.

Overall, the pitching staff’s ERA in 2013 was nearly identical with Molina (3.74) as it was with Lobaton (3.73). It was also nearly identical in 2012 (3.22 with Molina, 3.24 with Lobaton).

There is also the concern of Molina’s reputation as a pitch-framer. Nobody likes to be duped, and that is especially true of ego-maniacal umpires who are being graded on how well they call strikes. Molina is a nice, so that helps. But at some point, you have to worry that umpires are going to stop giving Molina the benefit of the doubt because he is making them look bad.

Don’t get me wrong, for all the negative of Molina (slow, passed balls, etc.), he is a plus-defender. But he is also a negative-bat. The result is that Molina was worth just 0.2 WAR on 2013, down from 0.8 WAR in 2012. And oh yeah, he is going to be 39 next season. The Rays obviously like Molina and their numbers must paint a prettier picture than I am seeing. That, combined with his cost (very little), made Molina’s age a gamble worth taking. But even if Molina doesn’t regress, he is not going to win the Rays many games which is why the move is puzzling. There is a lot of risk for very little reward.


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  • The Yankees have signed Brian McCann, Mall Cop, to be their catcher. This will be fun. If not familiar, McCann is well-known for being a stickler for the unwritten rules of baseball. This could lead to some interesting interactions with Joe Maddon who has had run-ins with similar players/managers in the past. [MLBTR]
  • Don’t look now, but the Bucs now have as many wins as Washington and more wins than the Texans, Vikings, and Falcons. It gets crazier. If the Bucs were in the AFC they would be just 2 games out of a playoff spot. But what is really great, is with the development of Mike Glennon it is like the Bucs now have an extra top 10 pick in next year’s draft. Instead of having to use the pick on a quarterback, the Bucs can now go out and add a player at another position because the Bucs already have their first-round talent QB. Here is a rundown of yesterday’s win. [JoeBucsFan]






  1. Mr. Smith 1980 says:

    I absolutely HATE this deal!
    I stated this in the last Molina post and I'll reiterate it here:
    I don't care how well he can move his glove 2 inches one way or the other;
    the past-balls, inability to hit consistently, his advanced baseball age, and his absolute inability to run without the aid of a Rascal scooter, make him a waste of a roster spot.

    Good bench coach; yes.
    MLB player; no stinkin' way!

    • TOM says:

      Couldn.t agree more. The Rays will not make the playoffs with fat ass Molina behind the plate. I will not waste my weel earned money to go an see a player that does not run out ground balls, can.t hit and is not a very good defensive catcher. When he's in the lineup its like playing with eight players in the lineup. Almost a guaranteed out. While were on the subject of wasted players I'd also like to see them get rid of S. Rod. (Madden's adopted son)

      • Mr. Smith 1980 says:

        I was all for dropping SRod too at the start of last season, but after showing some good leather in the infield this year I think he's shown himself to be just versatile enough to warrant a spot. The other side of that coin then has to be that Fuld would have to go, which is fine with me because he's just eating-up roster space as well.


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