4-28-2013 8-21-19 PMThe GBT – The Good, The Bad and The Telling sandwich, where The Bad is nice and lean and the The Telling is ripe.

RAYS 8, White Sox (boxscore)

THE GOOD: David Price. Price finally picked up his first win of the season, striking out 9 and walking just 2 in 7 innings. His struggled a bit to keep his pitch count in check, needing 119, 50 of which were out of the strikezone (well, 49 were out of the strikezone). But at times, his fastball looked as good as it has all season.  Hopefully this will be the turning point for King David…Ben Zobrist. Zobrist went through a bit of a cold stretch in which he had just 2 hits in 5 games. But he seemed to enjoy the White Sox pitching this weekend, going 5-10 with a double and a home run.

THE BAD: Tom Hallion. First of all, the call was horrible. Then he escalates a situation that didn’t need to be escalated by approaching Price. Then he publicly calls Price a liar. Absolute amateur-hour all the way around. You can read more about the situation, and see video of the play at this link. And you guys know me, I’m not one to jump on the umpires very often. But there are ways in which a player can show up an umpire, and what Price did was not one of them. There is nothing in the rules that says a player can’t be upset about a call. What he can’t do is argue balls-and-strikes (he never argued). And you can’t get in an umpire’s face. But it is an emotional game and Price is a competitor. There was absolutely nothing wrong with what Price did.

THE TELLING: Luke Scott had a single, a double, and a strikeout in 5 at bats in his latest rehab game…Both Jose Molina and Yunel Escobar could be back in the lineup on Tuesday…The Rays are 12-13, 6 games behind the Red Sox. According to CoolStandings.com, the Rays have a 40.8% chance of making the playoffs…A 17-year-0old that has yet to play a game for the Rays has been suspended for 50 games for testing positive for something he shouldn’t have been taking…The Rays are one game short of tying the franchise record for consecutive games with a home run (15).



DURHAM 13, Syracuse 3. JD Martin struck out 6 and walked none in 6 innings. But allowed 3 runs on 10 hits…Wil Myers was 1-5 with 2 strikeouts. He is hitting .309…Leslie Anderson was also 1-5 and is down to .291.

Birmingham 14, MONTGOMERY 8. Enny Romero gave up 4 runs in 3 innings on 3 hits and 4 walks…Mikie Mahtook was 3-5 with a double and a triple, raising his average to .237. He also stole his 6th base…Todd Glaesmann hit his 4th home run of the season.

Lakeland 11, CHARLOTTE 4. Luke Scott went 2-5 with a double…Richie Shaffer was 1-4. He’s hitting .197.

BOWLING GREEN 9, Peoria 4. Marty Gantt hit his 4th home run and added a pair of walks.





  1. Dre says:

    I 100% agree with your assessment of the umpire situation. Honestly, whether he used foul language or not is irrelevant. Price was not engaging him, so there is it is completely inappropriate for the umpire to engage Price. His whole excuse of "his body language implied..." is nonsense to me.

    I was listening to radio broadcast at the time. I can't remember if it was Wills or Freed, but one of them was saying that Tom Hallion is staring at Price as he walked back to the dugout and something to the effect of almost daring Price to engage. (Not sure if you can find that audio or if you heard it). But, that to me is an ump looking for a fight.

  2. Dave L says:

    Before the series Hawk had sort of called out Brian Kenny, sabermetrics most vocal proponent, on the Chisox broadcast. So he came on Kenny's show with Harold Reynolds to debate the place of sabermetrics place in the overall managing of the game.

    The debate was very polite and entertaining and Hawk was amazingly articulate I was shocked, usually when these debates occur the numbers guy usually seems to win IMO. But Hawk really killed Kenny. He repeated the phrase TWTW the will to win and it became a theme durtung this series. Supposedly that afternoon when Hawk entered the clubhouse the team gave him a standing ovation.

    They flashed TWTW on the scoreboard during the series and they were using it as a rallying cry. Interestingly during the arguement Kenny brought up the upcoming series and mentioned Maddon, his favorite manager as an example of how to win using numbers, but Hawk didnt take the bait and complemented Maddon. So there was a sideshow to this game saber vs old school. TWTW took the first two games couldn't stand up to superior pitching in the last two.

    I'm glad to get out of Chicago 2-2

  3. Mr. Smith 1980 says:

    I thought this was an overall good series. The team continues to hit well and the pitching is definitely looking more like it should. It'll be interesting to see what happens when Scott finally get plugged-in to the lineup, but we, as Rays fans, have to temper our excitement because with this group of guys another hitting drought is never far away.

    An ump or ref should never go looking for trouble- they are, by definition, supposed to keep the peace and be the objective person(s) on the field. To go looking for trouble then get pissed when someone reacts is just foolish. Something crazy has to happen for mild-mannered Hellickson to get tossed!

  4. Don says:

    There's a new one everyday, Price wins a game and goes off on the umpire, for telling him to throw the ball over the plate, I thought thats what he's been doing for the last month (5+era), come on ump be fair, don't yell at price, he'll sic Hellickson on you, whole seen/incident bizarre.......If umps aren't happy about it......
    Price/Rays will be the losers

    • Mr. Smith 1980 says:


      At the end of the day the Rays, or Price in particular, lose because the umps will squeeze him from now on, but the entire things was a fiasco that was started by the ump- so unfortunately the ump got the first word and will also get the last one. It's a lose/lose proposition any time you challenge authority.

      "I fought the ump and the ump won,
      I fought the ump and the ump won.

      threw 3 strikes- he didn't call one

      I fought the ump and the ump won
      I fought the ump and the ump won

      Helli yelled "hey liar! you're dumb!"

      he fought the ump and the ump won
      he fought the ump and the ump won..."

      • Rob says:

        It's evident that Price has some growing to do if he is going to be a leader. A leader takes the long view and sees the bigger picture. All he accomplished with his tweets was to escalate it even more, and it could possibly end up hurting his team.

  5. Bill says:

    Some good comments here, and mostly all spot on. If we are supposed to understand that umps are human and don't always get it exactly right, then shouldn't umps understand that players are human and are going to have emotions to vent at times? Cursing or not, this ump walked up the line with intent to engage. Simply put, he doesn't have the demeanor for the job.

    Likewise, after venting David should have been the leader he was being when walking away without engaging. But he couldn't do that. He had to get on Twitter. Far more effective move would have been to simply say to reporters, "You saw the game or the replay, form your own opinion as to who was engaging whom". That's saying it without saying it. No MLB trouble but anyone with a brain and maybe even some would get it. Grow up, DP. Watch some mob movies to learn how to give veiled threats with plausible deniability.

    • Mr. Smith 1980 says:

      I can't remember the exact circumstances, but I recall a game last year when instead of arguing balls and strikes Joe went out to the mound and just looked the pitcher in the eye and started yelling about the bad call loud enough for the ump to hear-- this enabled him to get his point across without becoming a detriment to his team.

      At the end of the day this will only be a blip on the radar screen of the 2013 season, but it is a bit of an indicator of Price's still being a relatively young pitcher who still has to learn to take a deep breath and think about the next pitch/inning. If a little taunting from the ump can set him off then fans at opposing ball parks will start heckling in hopes that they too will be able to get under his skin.

  6. Don says:

    I don't know I usually go to Tweeter to resolve my personal conflicts, what are you Price 16yo.?


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