Playing A Little Pepper

Does the performance by Chris Archer make it more likely for the Rays to trade a pitcher this winter?

As I always say, all Rays players are always available as long as somebody is willing to overpay. And if nobody is willing to meet the Rays’ price, they will be more than happy to keep all their pitchers. And we saw that this year with Wade Davis. We also saw at the end of the year how important depth is at that position. That being said, maybe the price of 1 or 2 of the pitchers comes down a tad with emergence of Archer. But not much…RAYS WON’T MIND KEEPING THEM ALL

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Source: FanGraphs


  1. Flash Jennings, LF
  2. BJ Upton, CF
  3. Ben Zobrist, SS
  4. Evan Longoria, 3B
  5. Matt Joyce, RF
  6. Jeff Keppinger, 2B
  7. Luke Scott, DH
  8. Carlos Pena, 1B
  9. Jose Molina, C
  10. David Price, SP

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  1. Don says:

    Depth at pitching is the expense of no hitting is a sure way to get beat 1to0 2to1,3to2..
    Learn your lesson Rays keep the best trade the rest, we can live with 5/6starters, 8 is not necessary, without hitting your nothing(2012)..

  2. Allen says:

    Some of us could take a trip back in history and look at the very strong pitching of the LA Dodgers when they had Drysdale, Koufax and Podres but rather weak hitting----not as bad as Tampa Bay-----and the Baltimore Orioles when they had Jim Palmer, Mike Cuellar and Dave McNally. I had forgot how powerful those Orioles bats were in 1970. The weakest hitter was Mark Belanger (.218), better than too many of the Rays.

    No doubt, lack of hitting has put the Rays too far out of the hunt for post season, and as far as I am concerned there's only three descent hitters on the team: Longoria, Zobrist and Keppinger. After those three, who cares? We can only hope Jennings can show great improvement next year. I don't expect anything better from any of the other players.

  3. MarkE says:

    Definitely need to trade arms for bats. It's a no-brainer, has been for a long time. Problem? You can trade all you want -- you still have to pay that big bat's salary, and the Rays aren't going to sign a big salary.

  4. Dave L says:

    Outside of Upton and Zobrist who had career average type years, and Kepp who had a career better type year, virtually every other hitter had a career low type year as far as production goes. Who could have predicted that?

    And with only a 1 year deal, our only .300 hitter is certainly gone along with BJ. So the cupboard for 2013 is even more bare to start with.

    I think the Rays realize that off season free agency will yield the same type 'proven' bats as any trade will so why give up young assets, the real limiting factor is payroll.

    Shields is the only one the Rays would consider trading as his $$$ number is creeping up there,

    And if he is the one who is dealt, expect it to be for a gaggle of hitting prospects we all have to google to even recognize.

    Thats the Rays way.

    Thats what got us here as always on the cusp but not quite.....

  5. Ken says:

    The biggest surprise to me this year is not the lack of hitting but the number of errors. The Rays have committed 48 more errors already than they did in 2011 and they still have 12 games to play. How many more games would we have won even with the lousy hitting if we could have only caught and thrown the ball. "Our DNA is pitching and defense". Well the defense was not part of our DNA in 2012. We made the playoffs with lousy hitting in years past because we had very good pitching and very good defense. We had fantastic pitching and unbelievably bad defense this year, and that is why we MAY (I still have hope) not make the playoffs.


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