Here is a stat for you to savor: Only two players had 60 extra-base hits and 40 stolen bases last year. Can you name them? Try Carl Crawford and BJ Upton.

That tidbit comes to us from Ken Rosenthal, who also notes that the Rays are not in a hurry to trade Upton or Matt Garza, but that both could be moved at next year’s trading deadline, or next winter…

The Rays, sources say, might be more likely to move [Upton] in July or even next offseason, when he is one year from free agency.

Likewise, the Rays will be reluctant to trade right-hander Matt Garza or another member of their rotation until some of their top pitching prospects are closer to the majors.

We have heard several Rays bloggers say the Rays WILL trade a starting pitcher this winter. But we repeat: Trading a starting pitcher is just not the Rays style, unless somebody just blows them away with an offer.

All of this could make next year’s trading deadline very exciting. Unlike 2008 and 2010, the Rays could be sellers. And the trading deadline is always a seller’s market. Which is why the Rays didn’t make deals in 2008 and 2010. But it could mean the Rays will find great value by waiting to trade Upton and Garza (or James Shields).



  1. Hal says:

    I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. Rays will be better next year.

    • Sarah says:

      Better than what? Better than in 2007, that I’ll grant you.

    • Scot says:

      Will they be better than 2010? Maybe.

      Will they end up with a better W-L record than in 2010? Probably not. Given how they were lucky to score as many runs as they did given the number of hits, walks, etc. And given they won more games than on average given their runs scored and runs allowed, it is more likely they will recede to the mean. A 19th century concept rediscovered by a former Kansas City watchman in the 80′s.

  2. Michael says:

    No offense intended, but why did you bother posting this? If Ken isn’t smart enough to figure out that there is a top propsect who has been waiting (Hellickson), he shouldn’t be talking on the subject. THat comment is just a complete joke on his part.

    • Cork Gaines says:

      His point was that after Hellickson, there isn’t much. The next wave of good pitching prospects are still probably a year away. So if the Rays trade Garza (or Shields) they are screwed if somebody gets hurt. They may prefer to keep all 6 for the time being for depth.

      • JayW says:

        I don’t see why Sonnanstine can’t be considered the backup 6th starter if someone gets hurt. He’s not the greatest, but definitely servicable.

      • Sarah says:

        But doesn’t Sonnanstine fill this 6th starter position? Having 6 legitimate starters plus Sonnanstine seems like a luxury that the Rays, with deficits in several positions, can’t afford.

      • phil says:

        Hey Cork they are screwed if they do not have a closer or another power bat

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