Archive for July 23rd, 2008

[TRADE DEADLINE] What Do You Like Better..Christmas Or Trading Season?

Andrew Friedman, Ben Zobrist, Dale Thayer, Eric Hinske, Fernando Perez, Gerry Hunsicker, James Houser, Jason Hammel, Jeff Niemann, Joel Guzman, Jonny Gomes, Juan Salas, Justin Ruggiano, Mitch Talbot 9 Comments »

Yesterday we presented our updated Trade Value Index (TVI). With a little over a week until next Thursday’s trade deadline, rather than take a look at the players the Rays may target we will take a look at the players most likely to be sent packing should Andrew Friedman and Co. decide to pull the trigger on a deal.

Gerry Hunsicker, Rays’ Senior VP for baseball operations and Friedman’s guru, has made two of the best deadline deals in recent memory. In 2004, Hunsicker landed Carlos Beltran and 6 years earlier he traded for Randy Johnson. While the Astros failed to reach the World Series in either year, both Beltran and Johnson were key figures in Houston’s playoff runs.

On the other hand Friedman sounds more like a guy that is willing to sit on the talent in place.

Keep in mind all of the “rumors” in the media recently are 99% speculation. They have a simple formula and the Rays always fit the formula. The media looks at a player and picks the teams still in contention that would view that player as an improvement. Then they decide which teams have the stronger farm system. The Rays will almost always satisfy both criteria.

The problem is the Rays are not like most ball clubs and are in the process of redefining success for small-market clubs. We feel that the Rays are more likely to follow the blueprint of the Angels who rarely make in-season deals and prefer to hold on to their homegrown talent.

That being said, there is still a chance the Rays will swing a deal for a mid-level player such as a middle reliever to add depth to a staff that has suffered a number of injuries. There is also a need for a right-handed hitting outfielder as the Rays have struggled against lefties this season and possibly a utility infielder that is an upgrade over Ben Zobrist and can serve as a backup shortstop.

So if a trade is made, which players are most likely to be used as bait…

Jason Hammel 3:2
Any deals involving pitchers will almost certainly involve Hammel to open a spot in either the bullpen or the rotation (with either Edwin Jackson or Andy Sonnanstine moving to the bullpen). Hammel can still bring the heat with a mid-90s fastball, but do any teams still think he can be a starter?

Jeff Niemann 2:1

While other teams will certainly ask for David Price, Wade Davis or Jeremy Hellickson, Niemann is the piece of value that the Rays would prefer to trade. While certainly Niemann’s star shines less brightly these days, he is still young, and very big and he has a lot of upside.

Jonny Gomes 3:1
Like Hammel, any deal for a right-handed hitting outfielder will almost certainly involve Gomes going in the other direction. Nobody doubts Gomes’ power or his intensity, and if given regular playing time, he could be a solid DH or outfielder for another team.

Fernando Perez 7:2
Perez has loads of talent but he still struggles with strikeouts. The Rays have no room in center with BJ Upton but could Perez play right field in ’09 and be the Rays leadoff hitter? Or is he expendable? Like Niemann, Perez is one player we can see the Rays using as trade-bait.

Ben Zobrist 5:1
Whether as a utility infielder or a starting shortstop, Benny Boo Boo has proven that he can be a major leaguer. He will never be an all-star, but there are plenty of teams out there with worse options plaing short or second.

Mitch Talbot 5:1
Talbot would not be the key player in a trade, but he could be the arm that puts a deal over the top. He is a bit of a tweener. He has shown flashes of brilliance, like his performance in ’06 SL playoffs, but he has been very up-and-down since moving to Durham. There is some upside and there does not seem to be a future for him with the Rays.

Dale Thayer 7:1
Thayer who seemed destined to be a career minor leaguer, has blossomed this season in Durham with a 1.43 ERA and 57Ks in 50.1 innings with only 17 walks. With Jeff Niemann and Juan Salas also in Durham as bullpen insurance, Thayer is certainly expendable. He is also Rule 5 eligible this winter, so now may be a good time to move him.

Eric Hinske 7:1
Hinske is a free agent at the end of the year, and with Gabe Gross and a healthy Cliff Floyd, Hinske is certainly expendable.
But he has also been one of the Rays better hitters this season. Would the Rays risk moving an offensive contributor with the offense struggling a bit?

Juan Salas 8:1
If the Rays don’t trade for a relief pitcher, Salas is probably the next guy up from Durham when somebody is needed. He has pitched well for Durham, with a 2.12 ERA and 38Ks in 34 innings with only 8 walks. Might somebody be enticed by the comparisons of Salas’ cutter to Mariano Rivera’s?

James Houser 8:1
Like Jeff Niemann, Houser is another name that the Rays will counter with when teams ask for one of the big pitching prospects. He is a tall lefty with some upside. Could be more tempting than a Mitch Talbot.

Justin Ruggiano 8:1
Ruggiano is similar to Mitch Talbot in that he is a bit of tweener. He posts good numbers in triple-A and could be serviceable as a 4th outfielder in the major leagues, but does he have a future with the Rays? Again, would not be the key player in a trade, but he could be the bat that puts a deal over the top.

Joel Guzman 10:1
Won’t be 24 until November, and while he has a ton of power and a very good glove with plenty of positional flexibility, he still strikes out way too much (88 in 355 ABs this year) and his OBP is embarassing (.271). He will also be out of options in ’09, so a move now or this winter may be necessary. Might somebody else be tempted by the talent?

Shawn Riggans 10:1

To us, this is the most intriguing name on the list. Riggans can hit. He still has plenty of room for improvement behind the plate and he is not that young (even for a catcher; 28 in a few days). The Rays also have Mike DiFeLice in Durham. DiFelice will be on the team in September no matter what happens, but would Maddon prefer DiFelice on a potential playoff roster? There is also John Jaso who was recently promoted to Durham and could make Riggans even more expendable.

Reid Brignac 10:1
Have the Rays soured a bit on Brignac? We can’t see Brignac being traded, especially until Tim Beckham shows that he is a major leaguer-in-waiting. And there is also that open right field slot in ’09. Could the Rays give Brignac a shot at RF in spring training? Still, no matter what the plans are, teams will ask for Brignac. Will the Rays bite?

Dan Johnson 12:1
Having a huge season since being demoted to Durham. Unfortunately, he has shown little or no power in the majors and has very little positional flexibility for a guy that is better suited for a bench role. Still, he has big league experience which a NL contender might value.

Al Reyes 15:1
A free agent at the end of the year, but has been struggling with injuries which make him more valuable to the Rays than to any suitor.

Chris Mason 15:1
Would anybody want him?

Gary Glover 20:1
Ditto

Grant Balfour 50:1

Another name that is very intriguing to us. If there is any inkling in the Rays front office that this recent run by Balfour is a fluke, then now is the time to trade the power righty and sell high. But everything we have seen indicates that Balfour is the real-deal and maybe he just needed to find some confidence which he has plenty of right now.

[THE ARCHIVES] One Year Ago On Rays Index

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One year ago on Rays Index we documented the conversation on the mound between Jim Hickey and Brian Stokes during a 21-4 loss to the Yankees. What a difference a year makes.

We Like The Feel Of A Hammer On Our Heads [Rays Index]

[RI CONFIDENCE GRAPH] The Rays Index Confidence Graph: Week 17

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The Rays Confidence Graph will appear every Wednesday and is a look at how much confidence Rays fans have in the Tampa Bay Rays. The graph is designed to give us a look at how our emotional bias as Rays fans fluctuates through time. The “confidence” in the team is an inexact measure of how fans feel about the team’s current strength as well as how much confidence fans have in the franchise for the next 3-4 years. Notes on this weeks agida-level can be found after the graph..

Notes on the RI Confidence Graph…

  • The most common response for “Confidence in 2008 Rays” was 8 (They will be in playoff contention all season) with 61.4%.
  • The most common response for “Confidence in future of franchise” was 10 with 42.4%.
  • 98.6% of respondents feel the Rays have a shot at the playoffs in 2008. That number is up from 94.9% a week ago.
  • 100% of respondents feel the Rays should be at least a .500 team in 2008. Last week that number was 100%.

[THE HANGOVER] Jonny Gomes Might Be Demoted To Durham

Andy Sonnanstine, Ben Zobrist, Dioner Navarro, Evan Longoria, Grant Balfour, Houston Street, Jason Bartlett, Jonny Gomes, Roberto Hernandez, Willy Aybar 7 Comments »



THE GOOD: Sometimes you watch a game and you just know early on that it is not the Rays’ night. It is easier on the liver.

THE BAD: Andy Sonnanstine against the A’s this season. The Rays have only played the A’s 5 times and yet two of their worst losses are at the hands of the green and gold. In addition to last night’s 8-1 drubbing, the A’s got the beat-down on May 21 in Oakland to the tune of a 9-1 score. Sonny was the starting pitcher in both games. The only game worse than either of those was the 13-2 pounding just before the break in which we were thankfully in St. Lucia sans baseball. Oh yeah. Sonnanstine started that game also.

THE TELLING: Why was Houston Street brought into the game with an 8-1 lead? Might it be because he was being auditioned for the Rays brass? Managers will often bring closers into non-save situations if they have not been used in a while, but it had only been 3 days since Street last pitched. We counted 15 times this season in which Street had more than 2 off-days. The only explanation is that the A’s wanted to make sure that Andrew Friedman and Co. got a first-hand look at Street before the trade deadline.

DEVIL RAYS WEBTOPIA

  • Jason Bartlett will likely be activated after today’s afternoon game. It looks like Ben Zobrist will not be demoted after all which means Jonny Gomes could be the odd-man out. That would leave Zobrist or Willy Aybar to play right field against lefties. [Bradenton Herald]
  • And yet Marc Lancaster tells us that some in the organization think that Jonny Gomes can be the right handed bat that the Rays desparately need against lefties. [Tampa Tribune]
  • As per our assertion in yesterday’s “Hangover” that Grant Balfour screamed “fastball!” to Dioner Navarro in the 8th inning of Monday’s game…Someone close to the team told us that Balfour says that he yelled “Fuck!” and not “Fastball!”. We went back and looked at the tape and it looks to us as if there are either two syllables or two words. So, either Balfour is thinking of a different situation or he does yell the F-bomb with a second word attached. [Rays Index]
  • Outs Per Swing is doing a great job keeping up with all the Rays trade rumors…Normally we would be more on this stuff, but we would be surprised if the Rays make a move for anybody significant. Maybe a middle reliever and maybe a utility infielder. The rest is just speculation because the Rays are in contention and have a deep farm system. [Outs Per Swing]
  • Brittany Ghiroli points out that the Rays have still been able to score runs with several top hitters struggling thanks to their speed on the basepaths. [MLB]
  • Jeff Passan of Yahoo! Sports gives the Rays 2/5 odds of making the playoffs. That is 3rd in the AL behind the Angels (a lock at this point) and the Red Sox. [Yahoo! Sports]
  • ESPN is running one of their silly “Sports Nation” specials looking at the all time best player for each team. They are taking votes for each team. Follow the link for your chance to vote for the Rays’ all-time greatest player…It is pretty sad when Roberto Hernandez is considered one of the five best Rays in franchise history. And it might seem silly, but one could make an argument that Evan Longoria is already the best player in franchise history. [ESPN]
  • Reader J.J. pointed us to this auction for the game-used uniforms and equipment from the Rays turn-back-the-clock game recently in which the Rays donned the threads of the St. Pete Pelicans. [MLB]

[DOWN ON THE FARM] Cummings Named To Olympic Team, Opens Spot In Durham For David Price

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Lehigh Valley 4, Durham 3. Ben Hendrickson gave up 4 runs in 5.1 innings…Chris Mason pitched 2 scoreless innings of relief, giving up 3 hits…Fernando Perez was 3-4 with a double. In his last 8 games, he is 16-34 (.471). He is still striking out too much with 14 in the last 10 games and only 2 walks…Dan Johnson was 3-4 with his 17th home run and 3 RBI…Reid Brignac went 0-2 and is hitting .261.

Montgomery 9, Tennessee 6. Jino Gonzalez gave up 4 runs in 5 innings on 10 hits and 2 walks. He struck out 5…Ryan Reid pitched 1 inning, giving up 2 runs (1 earned) on 3 hits and a walk. He struck out 2…Chris Nowak and Gabby Martinez were each 3-5 with a double. Martinez drove in 2…Rocco Baldelli went 1-4 with a single and a walk…Rhyne Hughes finished 2-5.

Lakeland 6, Vero Beach 4. Chuck Tiffany got the start and gave up 2 runs in 2 innings…Wade Townsend threw the next 3 innings, giving up only 1 hit and no runs. He struck out 2 and walked none…Nevin Ashley hit his 2nd home run.

Columbus 5, Lexington 2. Jeremy Hall allowed 2 runs in 6 innings on 8 hits and no walks. Hall did hit 3 batters..Justin Garcia struck out 5 in 3 perfect innings for his 4th save…Mike McCormick was 2-4 and hit his 8th home run, his second in 2 days.

Hudson Valley v Williamsport (ppd. rain)

Princeton v Greeneville (ppd. rain)

NOTES FROM DOWN ON THE FARM…

  • Jeremy Cummings of the Durham Bulls has been named to the US Olympic team…We are a little confused. We thought baseball was no longer an olympic sport?? [Charleston Gazette]
  • Stacy Long speculates that with Jeremy Cummings jumping from the Bulls to the USA Olympic Team, David Price could be promoted to triple-A as early as next week. [Biscuits' Batter]
  • Rays Digest takes a closer look at Jeremy Hellickson. [Rays Digest]
  • Jeremy Beckham (Tim Beckham’s older brother) has been promoted to Hudson Valley. [Tampa Tribune]