Last week Tom Glavine became the 300th member of the 23-win club 23rd member of the 300-win club. The mark prompted many to wonder if we will see another pitcher achieve the feat in the near future. With Randy Johnson’s (284 wins) career in jeopardy, there are no other pitchers that appear to have a legitimate shot at reaching the milestone. Of the active pitchers with 200 wins, only Mike Mussina (247 wins, age 38) and Pedro Martinez (206 wins, age 35) are under the age of 40.

With some even wondering if we would ever see another 300-game winner, we present Kid K. Scott Kazmir is currently sitting on 31 career victories. At the age of 23, he could conceivably pitch for another 18 years. If he averages 15 wins a season over the that time span, he will win 300 games. So barring any lost seasons due to injury, Kazmir has the talent, the head start and a team that should score plenty of runs in the next few years, to make a run at the mark.

How confident are we? We will now be tracking Kazmir’s progress in the side-panel for as long as Kid K wears a Devil Rays uniform.

While Mets fans can celebrate the 48 wins they have received from Glavine, they must take solace in the ZERO wins they got from Scott Kazmir. So tonight when Kazmir takes the hill against the Red Sox in search of career win number 32, we will raise our beer and toast The Next Member of the 300-win Club.

Mets’ Glavine part of a dying breed: 300-game winners [The Sporting News]
Glavine may be last to reach 300 [USA Today]



  1. Anonymous says:

    Mets fans always cried when they thought of what we got for Kazmir. The move never made sense to anyone, and the only good result was that it was the straw that broke the camel's back; we got omar, then pedro, then beltran, etc.
    That being said, there are genuine concerns that his arm won't hold up long term, so he'll be lucky if he reaches 200 career wins (or even 150).

  2. Anonymous says:

    i'm curious. what are those genuine concerns?

    Nobody outside of the METS organization has EVER expressed concerns about his arm. And the Mets only expressed concerns after they traded him for a wagon with 3 broken wheels.

    They sure didnt seem too concerned when they drafted him in the first round.

    He has never had a serious injury, and the only minor injury was a "tired shoulder" in the year after he posted a career high in IP. That happens to lots of young pitchers.

    If you actually watch him pitch, you will see a nice, easy, fluid motion. there are no wasted mechanics.

    Who would you rather have? Kaz or Dontrelle Willis? I'd take Kaz and always would. Watch Willis throw. He is a breakdown waiting to happen. Kaz is mechanically near-perfect.

    Sure Kaz may breakdown, but will he? THERE IS ZERO REASON TO THINK HE WILL.

  3. Anonymous says:

    The genuine concerns were expressed prior to the Kazmir-Zambrano trade by members of the organization, although it is unlikely that it was heard anywhere but new york at the time. Those concerns were that he didn't have the body type and size that could handle his throwing motion over the long term(, and have been mirrored by other teams, scouts etc. if you look around.) They felt that if we relied upon him, he'd break down at some point, potentially while he was still in the minors (though potentially years after arriving), and continue to have medical problems. If you think about it, he's a younger Billy Wagner (although starter v. closer comparisons are obviously inexact). Both are small lefthanders whose two plus pitches are fastballs and sliders. However, Wagner is considered anomaly because he's been able to stay relatively healthy over the course of his career and generate that velocity (or movement on his slider) without causing arm, elbow, or shoulder problems.
    When Kazmir was drafted in the first round, Steve Phillips and others were very excited because he was considered the best pitcher in the draft, but he wanted to get a huge contract, so every other team let him slip. To most Mets fans who cared, it felt like we had the #1 overall pick.
    You told me that "if [i] watched him play..."... I have watched him pitch dozens of times, including every start he threw in his first two seasons (though my memory escapes me as to their specifics). I also own a Devil Rays jersey with his name and original number because I hope for his success despite the immense stupidity of my organization. Nothing would make me happier than to have him as a 300 game winner. But it's just not going to happen. I would stake my life on the fact that he doesn't even reach 250.
    I don't understand how you can argue that something factual is ridiculous; i am telling you information that I am aware of because as a Mets fan I followed him very carefully and heard things about him that you can almost certainly not disprove. You probably wouldn't even have had the opportunity to know this, unless you were from New York and followed minor leaguers. It is a factual statement to say "some people were concerned." And I don't know that I'd call his original delivery "smooth."

  4. The Professor says:

    rst of all, this "chase for 300" is all very much tongue-in-cheek. sure i would love to see it, but the chances are slim at best and if it does happen, let's face it, it will probably happen with another franchise.

    the entire point is that I dont think winning 300 is a lost art, i just think we are about to hit a dryspell.

    as for Kaz. i have no idea what his delivery looked like in the minors, but it does look fairly effortless now.

    as for the Mets...i thought it was one or two scouts, but moreso i thought Peterson, who was the new pitching coach at the time and not on board when Kaz was drafted...i thought it was mainly he that was down on Kaz...and of course there was also Leiter and Franco and the rumors that Kazmir rubbed them the wrong way in spring Training.


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